RE: Review of DASC membership fees

Your DASC treasurer here.

Since Peter sent his proposal out I have seen several emails commenting on
the 'budget'. I have seen some comments saying the budget is too high or too
low or just right. I just wanted to clarify what I was asked to do and what
my assumptions are.

This 'budget' was create based on the level of activity we had in the last
year PLUS what level of activity I projected we will have this year. The
assumption is that DASC activity will increase. Another assumption was that
we should be willing to group DASC-SC meeting w/ conferences. I have seen
this assumption being questioned - which is legitimate. Note that if DASC
meeting are hosted at other times we may be able to save on location fees
but individuals traveling to the meeting will have higher out of pocket
cost.

Other items in the "budget" are +/- 10% and I acknowledge the potential for
savings, but I doubt we can find much more if we want to operate in a high
intensity level that I anticipated and assumed.

For your information, I attached a short ppt file with "analysis" of DASC
make up. Interesting reading. Not clear how many people will elect to stay
on if / when the rules change and the fees go up. But I think it will be
wishful thinking to assume that membership will go UP over all.

There is the question that was asked regarding the value proposition for
DASC and for entities should DASC entity membership be established. My
'budget' and 'analysis' does not trying to address this. In other words,
please do not interpret this as a position.

-Oz.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-dasc-sc@eda.org [mailto:owner-stds-dasc-sc@eda.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Ashenden
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 5:26 PM
To: stds-dasc-sc@eda.org; stds-dasc@eda.org
Subject: Review of DASC membership fees

Dear colleagues,

The DASC procedures require that the fees for individual and entity
membership of DASC for 2005 be determined by 15 August, since people can
start renewing for 2005 after that date. Hence, I'd like to open discussion
of the question.

Currently, we have a fee for individuals of $40 and no fee set for entity
membership. Given the possibility of entity membership in the future, I
suggest we determine that fee now also. Our procedures state that "The
amounts shall be determined so as to cover the reasonable operating expenses
of the DASC." Our Treasurer has prepared a budget to give us an idea of
expenses:

Item

Cost Per

Occurrence

Annual Cost

DASC-SC Meetings (room, telecommunication, food)

$ 5,000.00

4

$ 20,000.00

DASC-SC Telecon

$ 250.00

6

$ 1,500.00

Travel (chair)

$ 3,000.00

4

$ 12,000.00

Travel (other)

$ 3,000.00

2

$ 6,000.00

Equipment and Web services

$ 2,500.00

1

$ 2,500.00

Misc Exp

3000

1

$ 3,000.00

Total

 $ 45,000.00

Our current fee goes nowhere near covering these expenses. To get closer,
I'd suggest the following as a first cut:

For entity members, I'd suggest we mirror the IEEE-SA setup of a tiered fee
based on revenue. For example:

- $500 for entities with revenue less than $1M

- $1000 for entities with revenue of $1M to $1B

- $2000 for entities with revenue more than $1B

Along with this, the Designated Representative (DR) and one Designated
Representative Alternate (DRA) of the entity would get individual
membership, allowing them to vote in individual-based WGs.

For individual members, I'd suggest we change the fee to $200.

Under the above scenario, entities that only want to vote in WGs and not be
part of the ballot group can just pay the DASC fee. Entities that want to
vote in the WG and ballot pay both DASC and IEEE-SA fees. Entities that just
want to ballot only pay the IEEE-SA fee. This would mirror the current
arrangements for individuals in individual-based projects.

I'd like to invite members to comment ahead of a vote in the near future on
fees for 2005. Please respond to the stds-dasc@eda.org list.

Thanks, and regards,

Peter Ashenden

DASC Chair

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