Re: Review of DASC membership fees

Peter,

I share the opinion of John Beatty.

Regards,

Alec Stanculescu

> Peter,
> This budget seems out of line to me. I'm the chairman of a working
> group which has had a $0 budget since before it became an IEEE working
> group the first time. This is not to say that the DASC budget should be
> zero but getting companies to donate much of what is needed like meeting
> rooms, food, teleconferencing facilities, projection facilities etc. should
> be possible and its very cost effective. The 1481 working group has had
> companies donate all the resources I mentioned and even editorial help.
> What the donation process generally results in is the meetings are most
> often held in cities where the companies that are most active have
> facilities. In general I don't think is detrimental but it may result in
> more meeting being held in Silicon Valley than anywhere else. I'm
> supportive of a moderate travel budget for the DASC chairman. The reason is
> it will encourage individuals that are not employed by a large company to
> actively participate in the DASC's top position and this balance is very
> useful.
>
> My budget proposal might look like this:
>
> |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> | DASC-SC Meetings (room, telecommunication, food) $0.00 4 $0.00 |
> |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> DASC-SC Telecon $0.00 6 $0.00
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Travel (chair) $2,000.00 4 $8,000.00
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Travel (other) $0.00 2 $0.00
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Equipment and Web services $0.00 1 $0.00
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Misc Exp $1,000.00 1 $1,000.00
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | |
> | |
> | Total $9,000.00|
> |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> John B.
>
> Phone: 1-845-892-4212
> Fax 1-845-892-2066
> email jbeatty@us.ibm.com
>
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> | Subject: Review of DASC membership fees |
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> Dear colleagues,
>
> The DASC procedures require that the fees for individual and entity
> membership of DASC for 2005 be determined by 15 August, since people can
> start renewing for 2005 after that date. Hence, I'd like to open
> discussion of the question.
>
> Currently, we have a fee for individuals of $40 and no fee set for entity
> membership. Given the possibility of entity membership in the future, I
> suggest we determine that fee now also. Our procedures state that "The
> amounts shall be determined so as to cover the reasonable operating
> expenses of the DASC." Our Treasurer has prepared a budget to give us an
> idea of expenses:
>
>
> Item Cost Per Occurrence Annual Cost
>
> DASC-SC Meetings $ 4 $
> (room, 5,000.00 20,000.00
> telecommunication,
> food)
>
> DASC-SC Telecon $ 6 $
> 250.00 1,500.00
>
> Travel (chair) $ 4 $
> 3,000.00 12,000.00
>
> Travel (other) $ 2 $
> 3,000.00 6,000.00
>
> Equipment and Web $ 1 $
> services 2,500.00 2,500.00
>
> Misc Exp 3000 1 $
> 3,000.00
>
>
>
> Total $
> 45,000.00
>
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>
> Our current fee goes nowhere near covering these expenses. To get closer,
> I'd suggest the following as a first cut:
>
> For entity members, I'd suggest we mirror the IEEE-SA setup of a tiered fee
> based on revenue. For example:
> - $500 for entities with revenue less than $1M
> - $1000 for entities with revenue of $1M to $1B
> - $2000 for entities with revenue more than $1B
> Along with this, the Designated Representative (DR) and one Designated
> Representative Alternate (DRA) of the entity would get individual
> membership, allowing them to vote in individual-based WGs.
>
> For individual members, I'd suggest we change the fee to $200.
>
> Under the above scenario, entities that only want to vote in WGs and not be
> part of the ballot group can just pay the DASC fee. Entities that want to
> vote in the WG and ballot pay both DASC and IEEE-SA fees. Entities that
> just want to ballot only pay the IEEE-SA fee. This would mirror the
> current arrangements for individuals in individual-based projects.
>
> I'd like to invite members to comment ahead of a vote in the near future on
> fees for 2005. Please respond to the stds-dasc@eda.org list.
>
> Thanks, and regards,
>
> Peter Ashenden
> DASC Chair
>
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Received on Thu Jul 22 12:19:16 2004