RE: Review of DASC membership fees

Sorry for typo. It may be a Freudian slip here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hanna, William A
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:15 AM
To: stds-dasc@eda.org
Subject: RE: Review of DASC membership fees

Guys:

The latest wave of E-mails is very pathetic. A "professional" not willing to pay $100.00 annual fee for membership should rethink his professional status. Also, nothing wrong with corporate memberships as long as they can participate without domination. Please stop making it difficult. Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks.

WAHanna
William A. (Bill) Hanna
Boeing SDB Programs
Boeing Technical Fellow-Advanced Avionics
MC S001-3400 Phone: 314-777-9150
St. Louis, MO 63166-0516 Fax: 314-232-9036
E-mail: william.a.hanna@boeing.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Shields [mailto:jshields@ieee.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:45 AM
To: 'Peter Ashenden'; stds-dasc@eda.org
Subject: RE: Review of DASC membership fees

My vote is:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-dasc@eda.org [mailto:owner-stds-dasc@eda.org] On
> Behalf Of Peter Ashenden
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 10:47 AM
> To: stds-dasc@eda.org
> Subject: Review of DASC membership fees
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> The DASC Steering Committee reviewed the membership fees at its
> meeting on 12 November (see http://www.dasc.org/meetings/2004-11/.).
> This message is to ask you to review the recommendation and vote to
> approve the revised fee. There are two recommendations to review (see
> below). Would you please reply
> to me by email with your vote on each one. Since a 50% return is
> required,
> would you please vote even if only to abstain.
>
> The DASC-SC arrived at its recommendation by reviewing its operating
> expenses and other potential sources of revenue. Currently, the IEEE
> Computer Society funds our operating deficit to a reasonable amount.
> The DASC-SC considers this to be a revenue contribution. The DASC-SC
> will also seek contributions from other sources, including IEEE-SA and
> external bodies
> with an interest in DASC activities. The recommended membership fees seek
> to match these contributions.
>
> Would DASC members please vote on the following:
>
> 1. That the fee for individual members be $US100 from 2005 onwards.
>
> ____ Affirmative (comments optional)
>
> ____ Negative (no comment)
>
> __x__ Negative (with comments...)
>
> ____ Abstain
>
> Comments: ...

I would accept a higher rate, on the principle that we need more funding to be more effective. As a gesture of commitment of the members, it should help garner outside sources. It should come first. I think $100 is too much, will shrink the membership, is an unclear source to increase overall funding. It makes it nebulous to me whether it will even encourage outside funding sources.

>
> 2. That:
> - DASC entity membership be extended to IEEE-SA Corporate members, and
> - entities be allowed DASC membership at the same fee structure used
> for IEEE-SA corporate membership and with a number of DASC individual
> memberships equal to the number of SA individual memberships granted
> to SA corporate members
> (see http://standards.ieee.org/sa-mem/corporate.html), and
> - the DASC request IEEE-SA to mutually extend membership to DASC entity
> members.
>
> ____ Affirmative (comments optional)
>
> ____ Negative (no comment)
>
> __x__ Negative (with comments...)
>
> ____ Abstain
>
> Comments: ...

This provides no clear path to improving DASC revenues. I would like to see a clearer funding model than this. Some examples that are clearer but are not viewed as feasible are sources derived from sales of standard publications, sponsorship based on matching funds raised by the DASC (from individual membership fees, not bake sales), and/or a budget allocated from IEEE membership dues.

>
> Thanks, and regards,
>
> Peter Ashenden
> DASC Chair
>
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John Shields
Lynguent, Inc.
Received on Tue Nov 23 08:46:45 2004