Hi John: What I think is first that I questioned the fact that such an invitation did not come from the returning officer, like it used to be. I am not supposed to make any invitation, and in fact the position papers should be sentout together with the ballot (not later). Second, even if you consider that such an invitation was made (by me??) after the vote was called, it could not work unless a hold on the vote is placed in order that all voting people be exposed to the same information. Therefore, I voice my dissatisfaction with the way this election is processed, and the rush into voting before any of us can say anything. To answer your three questions: >>Do you think we are missing a formalism in our P&Ps? The P&P does not have to go into all details, but if changes to established details in procedures are assumed, maybe we need to write all details in the P&P. >>Do you think there is not enough time to campaign >>during the voting window? What do you think? Zero time does not qualify as "enough" under any circumstance. >>Is the key point just to delay calling for the vote? The key point is to follow P&P and established procedure in the details. It is the returning officer to propose what to do to remedy the "glitch." In any case this interpretation that "I send invitations" and the zero time for "campaigning" does not look acceptable to me. John, thanks for stepping in and trying to clarify the issue. Kind regards, Alex Zamfirescu On 12/4/07, John Shields <John_Shields@mentor.com> wrote: > > Alex, > > I think you have, in effect, made the invitation. As a candidate, the > effort you make to distinguish yourself from the field will be noticed. > There are 2 weeks before a vote is required. That should be enough time for > any to promote themselves. Do you think we are missing a formalism in our > P&Ps? Do you think there is not enough time to campaign during the voting > window? Is the key point just to delay calling for the vote? > > Regards, John > > Alex Zamfirescu wrote: > > Peter: > > The point is that you should invite the candidates to do so, and allow for > the > time before calling for vote. > > Alex Zamfirescu > > > On 12/4/07, Peter Ashenden <peter@ashenden.com.au> wrote: > > > > Alex, > > > > There is no formal requirement that I am aware of for candidates to > > provide position statements. However, if the candidates wish to do so, I'm > > sure the DASC members would welcome them. A post to the stds-dasc email list > > should suffice. > > > > Cheers, > > > > PA > > > > -- > > Dr. Peter J. Ashenden peter@ashenden.com.au > > Ashenden Designs Pty. Ltd. www.ashenden.com.au > > PO Box 640 VoIP: > > sip://0871270078@sip.internode.on.net > > Stirling, SA 5152 Phone: +61 8 7127 0078 > > Australia Mobile: +61 414 70 9106 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* Alex Zamfirescu [mailto: alex.zamfirescu@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 December 2007 19:45 > > *To:* Peter Ashenden > > *Cc:* stds-dasc@server.dasc.org > > *Subject:* Re: Call for votes for DASC officer election > > > > Hello Peter: > > > > In the past (see http://www.dasc.org/dasc-list/hm/0094.html ) there was > > also a > > call for position statements. That exposed our distinguished members to > > a > > minimal campaign, and allowed the less known candidates to express their > > > > views, and state their reasons why their service should be preferred. > > > > Is there a particular reason, other than simplification, to skip that > > phase? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Alex Zamfirescu > > > > > > > > > > On 12/3/07, Peter Ashenden <peter@ashenden.com.au > wrote: > > > > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > > > Nominations for Chair and Vice Chair for the IEEE DASC have now > > > closed. The > > > nominees are: > > > > > > Chair: Victor Berman > > > Vice Chair: Stan Krolikoski, Kathy Werner, and Alex Zamfirescu > > > > > > Under IEEE election procedures, we still need to have an election for > > > each > > > position, as there is the option of voters writing in candidate names. > > > So I > > > now invite members of the DASC to vote. Those members who have > > > participated > > > in 3 of the last 4 DASC meetings/ballots are eligible to have their > > > votes > > > counted. Other members should still vote or send a formal abstention, > > > since > > > this ballot will be counted for the 3-of-last-4 rule. > > > > > > As specified in the DASC procedures: > > > > > > Voting shall be by "approval", whereby each balloter may cast an > > > approval > > > vote for each of any number of nominees for an office. The Returning > > > Officer > > > shall acknowledge receipt of electronic ballots in a timely fashion. > > > The > > > nominee with the greatest number of approval votes shall win the > > > election. > > > Write-in candidates are permitted as specified in the IEEE Bylaws. > > > > > > Would WG members please vote by completing the form below and > > > returning to > > > me by reply email by 5:00pm US-PST, Tuesday 18 December. > > > > > > Thanks, and regards, > > > > > > Peter Ashenden > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Chair (place X next to name to indicate approval vote): > > > > > > ____ Victor Berman > > > > > > ____ Write-in: ___________________ > > > > > > > > > Vice-Chair (place X next to name to indicate approval vote): > > > > > > ____ Stan Krolikoski > > > > > > ____ Kathy Werner > > > > > > ____ Alex Zamfirescu > > > > > > ____ Write-in: ___________________ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. Peter J. Ashenden peter@ashenden.com.au > > > Ashenden Designs Pty. Ltd. www.ashenden.com.au > > > PO Box 640 VoIP: > > > sip://0871270078@sip.internode.on.net > > > Stirling, SA 5152 Phone: +61 8 7127 0078 > > > Australia Mobile: +61 414 70 9106 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alex Zamfirescu > > 650-814-7514 > > alex.zamfirescu@gmail.com > > http://alex.zamfirescu.googlepages.com > > ========= > > This communication, and its attachments, may contain > > privileged, or confidential information, intended for a specific > > individual and purpose, and is protected by law. 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If you have > > received this transmission in error, please notify me by reply > > e-mail at alex.zamfirescu@gmail.com and destroy the original > > transmission > > and its attachments without reading them, or saving them to disk. > > Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. > > ========= > > > > > > > -- > Alex Zamfirescu > 650-814-7514 > alex.zamfirescu@gmail.com > http://alex.zamfirescu.googlepages.com > ========= > This communication, and its attachments, may contain > privileged, or confidential information, intended for a specific > individual and purpose, and is protected by law. 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