All, While I don't think that 1076.6 is due just yet, if we think a revision is needed, it is probably time to start. The current IEEE version is 1076.6-2004, so I think it is due in 2009 (+ extensions?). Best, Jim > TEAM: > > It would be sad to let 1076.6 and 1364.1 to go obsolete because of no > reaffirmations. These standards made it possible to harmonize many > synthesis tools that were going in many different ways, some were very > "wild" I add my support to the words below from Alex and Shalom. > > Shalom (Peace). > > > */William A. (Bill) Hanna; Ph.D.EE/* > */Technical Fellow - Electronics Design&Analysis/* > Boeing-IDS Programs Phone: (314) 232-0714 > MC S106-3060 Mobile: > (314) 302-8039 > St. Louis, MO 63166-0516 E-Mail: william.a.hanna@boeing.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Alex Zamfirescu [mailto:alex.zamfirescu@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2008 4:40 AM > *To:* Bresticker, Shalom > *Cc:* Victor Berman; stds-dasc@server.eda.org > *Subject:* Re: DASC Meeting Minutes > > Hi Shalom: > > 1364.1 is a sibling of 1076.6. Those were produced in a special way > after a donation to the Industry PTAB occurred and an agreement with > some restrictions on how these two will be published was in place. > > I will not go in the history here. Most standards do not have any > letters from holders of related patents. However, those for which a > letter according to IEEE rules was requested and issued are somehow > special. I am not sure what happens with that letter if the standard > does not exist anymore (i.e. if it is not re-affirmed). > Note that both standards I mentioned are entangled with some patented > ("latch inference") > know how. With valid standards the assuring letters work for sure, with > non existing the "landscape" has still to be clarified. Therefore, the > simplest thing to do, without looking at more work in analysis, is to > re-affirm, and not bother about anything else. > > Note that DASC should be aware of the standards which have letters > attached. > IMHO, the simplest thing is to keep alive all those which have such > letters. > > On the other hand both are also IEC standards, so the maintenance > according to > DASC operating procedures, should be carried as Dual Logo standards. > That have some > implications on notifications, but that is yet another problem which > should not concern > most of us. > > I hope you understood my quest for simplicity, and desire to "keep > options open." > > I am glad you wrote, because at the DASC meeting today I tried to > explain this, and I got an action (or at least I thought I got one) to > clarify it in an e-mail. This was it, I hope. > > > Best regards, > > Alex Zamfirescu > > > On 2/22/08, *Bresticker, Shalom* <shalom.bresticker@intel.com > <mailto:shalom.bresticker@intel.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm no longer a member of DASC, but if I were, I would not favor > reconfirming 1364.1. I don't think anyone actually implements it, > and I was never happy with its quality. > > Shalom > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-stds-dasc@server.eda.org > <mailto:owner-stds-dasc@server.eda.org> > [mailto:owner-stds-dasc@server.eda.org > <mailto:owner-stds-dasc@server.eda.org>] *On Behalf Of *Victor > Berman > *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2008 10:27 AM > *To:* stds-dasc@server.eda.org <mailto:stds-dasc@server.eda.org> > *Subject:* DASC Meeting Minutes > > > > Dear DASC Members, > > Please find enclosed the approved minutes from our meeting in > December 2007 and the draft minutes from today's meeting for review. > > > > Regards, > > Victor > > > > Victor Berman > > President & CEO > > Improv Systems, Inc. > > Email: victorb@improvsys.com <mailto:victorb@improvsys.com> > > Office: 978 927 0555 x 27 > > Mobile: 978 390 7704 > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* > <http://www.mailscanner.info/>*, and is > believed to be clean. * > > *--------------------------------------------------------------------- > Intel Israel (74) Limited > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for > the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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