Subject: RE: Working Groups P&P Comments
From: Peter Ashenden (peter@ashenden.com.au)
Date: Wed Dec 17 2003 - 19:51:12 PST
Jim,
I think that, in practical terms, that would not be feasible. An
introductory guide would be more appropriate. Compare, for example, the
IEEE bylaws and procedures documents with the Standards Compendium. The
former are the formal rules, whereas the latter guide developers through the
process. Perhaps, once the DASC procedures are agreed, we should prepare a
DASC WG guide for WG members and observers to accompany the Standards
Compendium. Would you be interested in leading such an activity?
Cheers,
PA
-- Dr. Peter J. Ashenden peter@ashenden.com.au Ashenden Designs Pty. Ltd. www.ashenden.com.au PO Box 640 Ph: +61 8 8339 7532 Stirling, SA 5152 Fax: +61 8 8339 2616 Australia Mobile: +61 414 70 9106> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-stds-dasc-sc@eda.org > [mailto:owner-stds-dasc-sc@eda.org] On Behalf Of Jim Lewis > Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2003 13:18 > To: stds-dasc@eda.org > Subject: Re: Working Groups P&P Comments > > > Peter, > I was hoping that an observer could look at this > document and be able to understand what they can > do without having to reference other documents. > > > >>4.2 Observers > >> > Observers shall be permitted to participate in discussions at > >> > Working Group meetings and in email discussions in > accordance with > >> > the procedures of the IEEE-CS SAB. > >> > >>I would like this to be extended to include writing proposals > >>(because I would like to make it clear that I would be > >>willing to accept help from most able people). > >> > >>I propose to add the following sentence: > >>-------------------------------------------------- > >>This includes writing change proposals and > >>working on standards documents. > > > > > > Rather than specifying details of what the groups do, could > I propose > > alternate wording to replace 4.2: > > > > Observers shall be permitted to participate in Working Group > > activities in accordance with the procedures of the IEEE-CS SAB. > > Observers shall not vote. > > I prefer the original text to the above proposal. How about: > --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- > Observers shall be permitted to participate in Working Group > activities in accordance with the procedures of the IEEE-CS > SAB. This includes participating in discussions at Working > Group meetings and in email discussions. If an observer > casts a vote in a working group ballot, they shall place the > word "[observer]" before their vote and their vote shall not > be counted in the working group vote. > --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- > This gives the WG the ability to vote and at the same time, > see the opinion of a wider community. My intent is that when > we get to the standards balloting through the SA that things > go smooth. If everyone in the WG says yes, but a large body > in the wider community says no, the WG may want to reconsider > their position before submitting the draft for standards balloting. > > If this does not work, lets keep the current text in the > document. I can live with it. > > Cheers, > Jim > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jim Lewis > Director of Training mailto:Jim@SynthWorks.com > SynthWorks Design Inc. http://www.SynthWorks.com > 1-503-590-4787 > > Expert VHDL Training for Hardware Design and Verification > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >
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